Tuesday, February 9, 2010

TBV Guest Writer Dhoya Snijders: White Company


Orania is ‘slegs vir blankes’, whites only. If you happen to be of another tint, you may visit the town, but you cannot work or stay overnight. You won’t find this rule black on white, but it will be enforced white on black if you do not comply. In the non-racial democratic South Africa of 2010, how is this possible?






The answer is private ownership and the Vluytjeskraal Aandeleblok is the company that is wound up with the appropriate red tape. In fear of the political changes South Africa went through in the early 1990s, a handful of Afrikaners bought a large tract of land in… the middle of nowhere. They named the desert plot Orania, started Vluytjeskraal Shareholders and created Constitution article 7.1 which states that a select committee is to approve of one’s membership of the community. Once you do get accepted as a member, you become a company shareholder without private title deeds and with an executive board that sets the rules.

Regardless of where you come from, Orania is a long drive. A farmer’s market is building up as Fede and I arrive at dusk. We order fig juice from a very old man. “Di’s hierso vyf Ora meneer!". Besides having its own flag, anthem and annual festivities, Orania has its own coin, the Ora. The currency was launched precisely five years ago and its celebration sneers at the coinciding commemoration of FW de Klerk’s freedom speech of 1990. Besides boosting cultural identity, word on the streets is that the Ora is a fabulous security measure. If an outsider raids the local till, he or she will be stuck with a worthless bunch of paper.
Strategic, I think, but for now I don’t have any Oras. I give the old man a five euro note instead (valued at 55 Oras), which soon turns out to be a wise investment. The fig juice looks slightly putrid and is luke warm, but the 92 year old vender is in high spirits and introduces himself as Carel Boshoff. Cerebral alarm bells go off as I recall Mr Boshoff to be the son in law of Apartheid architect Hendrik Verwoerd, former head of the SA Institute for Race Relations, former head of the Broederbond, leader of the Voortrekkers, founding member of Orania and so on and so on. Within no time we get invited to do an interview on RadiOrania, meet the Orania board of directors, get invited to speak to Carel Boshoff Junior (MP for Freedom Front+) and get a peek at daily life in this peculiar little town.

Approximately 1500 people have flocked to the town since South Africa’s independence in 1994. The board cleverly plays upon the daily fears of South Africans and advertises itself with two unique selling points: employment and security. The economy is said to be bustling and the only serious crime you find is against mankind at large. Although it is not so strange that crime levels are low in a fenced-off piece of aridness, I must admit Orania is one of the few South African villages I encountered where one need not worry much about keys, locks and walking out at night.

When one does walk about town, it is not unusual to bump into Verwoerd, Malan, Strijdom or other Apartheid leaders. The Orania movement is eager to collect statues of all the old ‘heroes’ the ANC has been dismantling. They even contacted the new government with the request to notify them of any such removal. A bakkie can then be sent out to retrieve a marble, bronze or granite version of their Apartheid star. We query the philosophy behind all of this. “Well, where in the world do you find teenage students with their own car, pool, maid, and gardener?”, Boshoff Jr. asks us. “Only here in SA! This leads to exploitation of people and unfortunately, in this country these exploited people are the uneducated blacks”. I follow his reasoning, student life in South Africa does seem somewhat swish, but his following stride of reasoning separates our ways. “History has shown that Africans and non-Africans won’t hinder or exploit each other if they are not in each other’s faces”. With that, Orania brings the Apartheid ideology of separate development to a novel level.

But is it really about race Orania? We speak to people at the market, in the guesthouse, in the pub and it is not long before we hear that many of the Oranians (particularly the new ones) don’t want to vacuum their own house, do their own washing or clean their kid’s bums. As a consequence, white low-skilled workers are employed against minimum wage. Talk in the bar sounds surprisingly classist: the ‘owners’ are in power, they control the economy and ‘they have these fancy parties’. The self-proclaimed ‘workers’ would rather see the governing ‘owners’ go. In comparison to the board members, your ‘average Oranian Joe’ hits a different tone concerning South Africa too. In the ‘Stokkiesdraai’ bar we don’t hear the somewhat nuanced argument of Orania being a constructive asset to the country. “We lived in a zoo”, “with baboons”, people employ the most racist slur our ears have ever heeded. Quite some members of the community have experienced violence, rape, muggings or murder in their pre-Oranian life and are heavily traumatized. Their fuses are short and things can get rough, more so with alcohol about. Mayor Opperman says there is no place for hate in Orania, but the absence of psychiatrists and hospitals generates a challenging problem.

Although Orania advocates separateness and autonomy, it remains deeply reliant on the outside world. But what does the outside world think of this eccentric Afrikaner stronghold? At breakfast, Mr. Boshoff tells us about Orania’s meeting with Mr. Zuma. The board is pleased because Zuma has acknowledged that the Afrikaners are the only white tribe in Africa. There is place for this community under his leadership. We frown. Preserving culture, ok. Self-governance, fine. Social experimenting, sure. But principles of inequality… shame!


Dhoya


Note From the Editors: Pictures 1 and 4 were taken by the Writer Dhoya Snijders.
As always your comments are more than welcome

TBV team

29 comments:

  1. Crazy

    I didnt even know a place like this existed and I was born raised and lived my whole life in BLoemfontein.

    Pieter

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  2. I was talking to a respected German journalist yesterday who has spent almost two months in Orania. He commented on how open Orania is to the press. Also, nobody has ever been forbidden to taking any pictures in Orania.

    Snijders, stating that you were forbidden to take pictures, like a lot of the other "facts" that you mention, are blatant lies.

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  3. Dear Lida; although I do not agree with Orania's ideology, the town was very open to us! I believe quite some journalists and tourists come to Orania and are welcomed with a movie of the town and a guided tour that encourages pictures. It is nonsense that you cannot take photos in Orania, one of the editors put this up here and I shall ask them to remove this statement at once! Please elaborate on the other facts, this story is based on recordings I took in Orania over a period of three days.

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  4. Hi Lida
    Thanks for reading and commenting. We would like to reiterate while we speak of many hot and interestnig topics we do like to have a laugh from time to time, a bit of satire if you will. Of course you are allowed to take pictures in Orania why wouldnt you. They have nothing to hide in this sepratist country. I say Country because any part of South Africa that hasnt changed in 2010 should not be allowed to be part of our wonderful country.
    This respected journalist that you speak about. Was he white? Would be interestnig to note what colour he is.

    Kind regards
    Andrew

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  5. Open Lida open Are you joking? Im a black man and I went through Orania and I wanted to play spot the black man with my kids but couldnt cause we were the only blacks that were there. We moved on very quickly. Its all well being open but if you are doing something that is not right it quite clearly doesnt help about being open about it. Wasnt that what apartheid was about? love towards one colour hate towards another but at least we are open about it. Wern't the Nazis open to journalists as well in the 1930's I believe they were.

    Mzi

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  6. To me Orania is not about race, it is about culture, about the protection of the rights of minorities and the right of a people to govern themselves. Is it not strange that everywhere in the world countries have laws to protect minorities? However in South Arica the laws are to protect the majority, how strange?

    I was not in the bar and it could well be true what you report, but is the people in a bar representative of the people of Orania? Another strange fact is, while I was in the Netherlands I noticed a lot of people have no good word to say about Germans (eat to much), French (make things half baked) or Belgium's (not very clever), but that is never classified as racism. Not that I have any good word to say for discrimination of any kind.

    It is import to see Orania and the "volksgedagte" in the correct contexts. In the Netherlands live the Dutch and nobody complain that there is no French or Germans. You should see Orania as the start of a federal system where minorities have way to govern the selves, not just for Afrikaners but for all minorities in South Africa. Eventually there will be other groupings in the the volkstaat, but that can not be your starting point. For a federation to work you will need the majority in any part of the federation to be homogenous to a great extend. How sad it will be if the different cultures in Europe will disappear, how plain? Will it not be sad if that happens in South Africa no cultural diversity.

    My request to all journalist, next time when you come to Orania, please come look for at some of positive aspects as well, that will be balanced objective reporting. Like the fact that Orania is the most "green" town in South Africa.To only look at racism is a bit easy don't you think? However I do understand with that you get internet hits and fame.

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  7. They certainly have right to protect there language, culture, heritage and way of life. So the basis of your objection is they may not because they are white? I can defend there town entirely on race alone. White children under the age of 10 in South-Africa now make up less then 5% of that demographic group, most will however over the next 2/3 generation emigrate as has been the trend over the last decade or so with young whites. If there are no whites in South-Africa in what terms will you call it a multi racial South-Africa? To call a minority agitating for minority rights Nazi-Racists (even if they are white) is as blatantly stupid as calling Hitler a cool hippie. You get black neighborhoods in Europe, Muslim communities in Europe, Black cities in America, gay communities, Rasta communities, Jewish communities, Chinatowns everywhere, and in the whole sub-Sahara Africa there is one white town, not 100 not a 1000, just one, and somehow this is suddenly an abomination to humanity, if you have a problem with it you are either extremely insecure or need a course in logic.

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  8. Orania is the only intact Afrikaner community left in South Africa. Apartheid South Africa was based on social segregation and economic integration. Orania is neither. Why destroy it?

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  9. Since a huge proportion of white South Africans, Afrikaners in particular have black ancestry, and since the language that they call 'pure' and 'theirs' really is a language of the slaves, I can only say Orania is technically a Coloured Township. Well, good luck to them in their world of insular absurdity. The only question I have to ask of people of Orania is are they hoping to expand their population numbers? In other words, are they going to have more children born in Orania or is it just going to be a retirement village and tourist curiousity like the Amish? If their population grows, where will the kids go? If it doesn't, will it just have old retired people? I think as long as they bring in tourists who drive a loooong way to get there, they are still contributing to the economy of South Africa and helping us build homes and educate the poor, who are mostly black. Thank you Orania, please keep putting South Africa on the map for that benign curiosity and circus; it keeps the Euros coming.

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  10. I think the big question here is what are we talking about?

    Supporting or "protecting" Afrikanerdom or encouraging race segregation. If Orania was a place where anyone was aloud to live interact and enjoy would there be a problem? Of course not. People would live in the Orania community enjoying the Afrikaner culture and tradition, which I might add is a friednly one for the most part, sometimes a little too friendly.

    Your skin colour shouldnt matter. I think its important to realise that Rascism was a product of a political structure and therefore has become slightly entwined into the cultural DNA which is Sad but I do believe that being Afrikaans doesnt mean you have to be Rascist.

    So if Orania was a place where anyone was free to live and interact as equals then there would not be a problem but one must ask is this the case?

    If not there is something seriously wrong with the community of Orania.


    John

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  11. @John, Anybody is welcome to visit the town, but they are a minority in SA so if you allow 20000 Nigerians to settle, you would be preserving Nigerian culture, now wouldn't you? People should learn to think past obvious, but sometimes I wish they could just grasp the obvious!!

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  12. @Anon

    If you let 20,000 Nigerians stay in Afrikaner community wouldnt it be a way of promoting the Afrikaner culture to the world, all the traditions, the foods and potentially learning one or two things from an interesting people.

    But thats not really it is it?
    Oranians just want to be left alone right?


    Sometimes the obvious is hard to ignore.
    Let me ask you this anon if 20,000 Nigerians planted a spot right next to yours called greenania and said you are welcome to visit but not stay or live or participate what would you have to say? WHat would you call it?
    HOw would you feel? Its very easy to defend your point of view when its your point of view, try someone elses for a moment and see if the logic still adds up.

    Claire

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  13. @Claire & John

    Have you ever been in Europe?
    What is wrong with Europe, according to you?

    Was julle al in Europa en volgens julle wat is verkeerd met Europa.

    Ludwig

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  14. @ludwig

    This is probably asking the obvious Ludwig but why would CLaire and John need to go to Europe what does that have to do with this arguement.

    Are you a resident of Orania?

    Pete

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  15. Poor Nigerians! They seem to have the most depressing besmirchment in the RSA, I even heard kulula making jokes about them. But what about accepting one or two Nigerian children in Orania? As a social experiment? Love, nurture and raise them and I'm sure they'll be flipping koeksisters, dancing sokkie sokkie, listening to Bok van Blerk and cheering for the Cheetahs in no time. I'm not trying to reduce the term Afrikaner to a set of cultural practices, but Giliomee defines an Afrikaner as 'enige iemand wat lief is vir die land en wat lief is vir Afrikaans'. Why couldn't that be a Nigerian?

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  16. From QUINTIN DIEDERICHS


    DHOYA

    I'm moving to Orania. I've lived in Pretoria for 21 years, UK for 3 years and France for 4 years. I've travelled extensively all over the world and own an international travel company. My wife is French and she has made a massive effort to speak Afrikaans, learn our history, traditions and culture... as I eagerly learnt hers.

    Why would a young couple, who can really live anywhere in the world, decide to make Orania their home?

    My parents are reasonably liberal, I therefore really did not grow up in a volkstaat orientated household. Yet I believe that a volkstaat is the only way the Afrikaner, in its current being as a unique people (volk), can survive in Africa.

    Look at it this way: Would Denmark, a volkstaat, have existed today if Denmark became part of Sweden or Spain centuries ago? Would there even have been a Danish culture today?

    When I lived in France I actually realised that there are many old cultures like the Basques, Catalans, Bretons etc. They are traditionally not French but an outsider wouldn't know it because the vast majority of them only speak French and have completely lost their unique culture and traditions. They come across completely French. Why? Because they are a small minority and eventually completely integrated with the dominating French culture and language.

    The fact that Afrikaners are white and living in a continent where the norm is to be black, one can understand if white people, perhaps even yourself, sometimes feel threatened and frustrated by the manner in which the majority are doing things. This is due to the fact that our cultures are vastly different - to the point that our perceptions of logic have very little in common. This explains why the majority keep voting for the ANC, even the majority of educated blacks support the ANC so education seems to have very little to do with it. It all boils down to culture.

    Rather than being totally engulfed by the multi-cultural nation (viz. Bretons, Catalans etc.), I prefer to live with my own people, under my own rulers and in my own culture. If this means that black people don't feel welcome, then so be it. 2,5 million Afrikaners are constantly being made feeling unwelcome in the new South African society so it's a case of what's good for the goose is good for he gander. This is part and parcel of being human and is definitely not unique to South Africa.

    Nobody is forcing Afrikaners to live in the New South Africa, likewise nobody is forcing black people to live in Orania. If this was the case we would've had a civil war ages ago so why not live and let live?

    If you really believe in freedom of choice then you have to grant Orania and the volkstaat concept as much respect as you grant Mr. Nelson Mandela and the New South Africa.

    If you are not willing or able to do this then you are the last person to talk about discrimination and Orania's modus operandi. In any event, I'm not seeing anyone in Orania writing articles about your choices and criticising where and how you choose to live.

    Regards

    Quintin Diederichs

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  17. Food for thought: Orania's flag has changed. I recommend using the official flag of Orania.

    Also, your concluding argument doesn't make any sense at all: "Preserving culture, ok. Self governance, fine. Social experiments, sure. But principles of inequality... shame!".

    What are you talking about? You insinuate that Orania has principles of inequality yet there is no exploitation of blacks in Orania as there are no blacks living there. Everything is built and done by the Afrikaner for the Afrikaner.

    DID YOU KNOW that AA (Affirmative Action) and BEE (Black Economic Empowerment) is common practice in the New South Africa and after 15 years of "democracy" many white people still can't get jobs because of the colour of their skin - even when they apply for jobs at institutions that have well surpassed the required quota of 80% black employees? Perhaps you should mention this ineqaulity.

    You should really open your eyes and take on the real issues - such as exploitation of empoverished blacks by the black upper-class in the New South Africa, mass corruption, crime, discrimination against whites, land grabs, brutally racist murdering and raping of white farmers by black raiders, fierce onslaught on Afrikaans mother tongue education etc. etc.

    Orania is many Afrikaners' alternative to the status quo and I suggest you take note that Orania is becoming more popular under Afrikaners due to the aforementioned issues. There are very good reasons why Orania is growing and developing the way it is!

    Quintin Diederichs

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  18. It is indeed true that all people have the right to live with anybody the like; most people in the world actually also live amongst people of their own culture.

    However, it is impossible to create a seperate, independent entitity for every culture in the world (there are 11 in SA, but 42 in Kenya, more then 400 in Nigeria etc.), or to create a federal system in each existing country along cultural lines (which in many cases also run along ethic lines in Africa). History has created a world as is today and we shouldn't try to change history but rather focus on the present and the future: people should live together in peace, mutual understanding and harmony, trying to create a better life for all in their existing country. Governments should welcome minorities, make them part of the government system and work towards a fair, integrated country where everybody's voice is heard.

    So, the people of Orania, all Afrikaners, are welcome to live together, however they should keep in mind that they are part of South Africa, and that Afrikaners are also South Africans, and equally participate in the governance of SA as any other culture in the country.

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  19. The internet has truly become the last domain for the legitimising of bullshit ideology in South Africa.

    In much the same way the Zuma uses the term 'culture' to mask his sexism; those who run to Orania for 'culture' do so to disguise their dislike of anyone who appears different. Nobody is stopping South Africans who identify with what is called Afrikaner culture (which is less than 200 years old anyway) to practice their Afrikaans culture in broad South Africa. You can be Afrikaans anywhere in S.A.

    Are openly gay Afrikaners living and loving freely in Orania? Are Afrikaners who are in love with people of other cultures/colours/ allowed to live in Orania? Are Afrikaners who partake in say polyamory or swinging or dagga smoking or punk culture etc etc to be found anywhere in Orania? Are rastafarian Afrikaners to be found there? Are wealthy business people who need to work with all South Africans in Orania?

    I doubt that every kind of Afrikaner is 'free' to come to Orania. It is a place with a particular definition of Afrikaner and white.

    It is a shallow definition relating to Verwoed and koeksisters and some kind of suiwer Afrikaans... That is gutting Afrikaans heritage which is multicultural and filled with subversive elements and filled with exciting expression which all South Africans can participate in.

    No, I think Orania residents should just call their spade a spade. It's not about 'culture', it's about wanting to follow the silly idea that living with people who share your skin colour is the safest and comfortable way to exist. It's an idea based on fear and hatred.

    But you can mask it as culture all you like. Like Zuma masks his sex addiction and womanising as Zulu culture.

    The rest of the world aren't morons. Orania is not the only white supremacist community in the world. There's plenty. You've got neo-Nazi/ skinhead friends in Russia, America, Germany, Britain - people who believe there exist 'white' people who superior to other people and they need to be defended from 'darker' people.

    It's a silly idea. But if that is your definition and method of self-preservation; in the broader universe, just stay out of the world's way and we'll stay out of yours.

    Just as there a churches where people believe gays are demon possessed, that falling in love with unbelievers is spiritual contamination, that God thinks Christians deserve more wealth than others, that Christians are better and more moral than others.

    The world abounds with absurd ideas and we can live with it so long as it doesn't become political policy or threaten others physically.

    Thank god for bands like Fokofpolisiekar or we might have believed there was only one way of being 'white' Afrikaner in this country.

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  20. Sunshine... why should I respect your views, which vastly differ from mine, if you don't respect my views?

    I'm not seeing any discriminating against people of other cultures or the exploitation of empoverished black people in Orania - yet I see it happening every day in your New South Africa.

    You're very quick to call yourself "the world" but, granted, you've got a point... I'll stay out of your way - just stay out of mine!

    I've got NO TIME for extremists like yourself. You've taken the ideal of liberalism and made it extreme in application.

    Fokkofpolisiekar? Perhaps you don't understand Afrikaans because if you listended to the words of their songs you would've known that they are very much fed up with the New South Africa... "Antibiotika", "Hemel in die platteland" and "Brand Suid-Afrika" may perhaps ring a bell.

    Gay Afrikaners and Afrikaners who love people with other skin colours (as you call it) have the whole New South Africa to live in - why would they move to Orania where these things are frowned upon, just like you are frowning upon Orania?

    Call your spade a spade - you have a problem with Christian Afrikaners who have conservative values and want to live in their own volkstaat. It's our choice, not yours so - if you have a life, I recommend you get on with it!!

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  21. PS. Quintin Diederichs made the above comments to Sunsine...

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  22. Quintin, thanks for sharing your story with us, it is interesting to hear your motivations for moving to Orania.

    The principle of inequality I refer to in the final sentence is obviously the exclusion of just about everybody in the world to Orania.

    A lot of the commentators seem to be saying that outsiders shouldn’t bark at the Orania-caravan as it will move on anyways.

    This is surely a caricature of the functions of criticism! Critical reasoning and commentary is precisely the way forward for you and me.

    And yes, of course there are many topics out there, but this text is about Orania and its place in South Africa.

    Another biased, but more elaborate article was written by FC de Beer (http://www.emich.edu/coer/Journal/De_Beer.html) and with him I ask the question:

    Is Orania the DAWN OF AFRIKANER SELF-DETERMINATION or an EXERCISE IN FUTILITY?

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  23. Dhoya, Afrikaaner self-determination started with those boeren who travelled across perilous oceans to the Cape of Good Hope to shut out the enlightenment. Die Groot Trek was another such journey into oblivion in the hope of securing blissful isolation. Now they're eking out a miserable existence in the middle of no where, in another futile attempt for absolute sovereignty, disconnected from the past century of political and economic development. Where to next for these desperate boere? To Mars, or the Moon? They can take as many of those Verwoerd statues with them, I for one won’t miss them.

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  24. How could I forget... racism isn't immoral to people who maintained a crime against humanity.
    I'm not intolerant of conservative Afrikaners, I just speak back to their ridiculous ideology.

    Ironically, the dominance of Liberalism is why most people in the new South Africa don't care to disturb Orania. We can respect your abhorrent views so long as it doesn't affect the national interest.

    When white conservatism dominated it used to be called apartheid South Africa and it was offensive to the Christian God they supposedly
    worshiped.

    Yes, we will call out conservatism until you build higher walls in Orania.

    And the beauty of Fokofpolisiekar is they say whatever they want, live however they want, think however they want. They'll enjoy that with the New South Africa but heaven help them when they retire to Orania. But then, maybe they'll have learnt to silence their open minds.

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  25. From Quintin Diederichs

    Att. DOHYA

    I wouldn't call Prof. de Beer's study biased. I'm happy to see that you at least admit to writing a biased article though.

    I don't mind critisism but you know that there are more positives in Orania than simply the fact that you felt safe. They take care of the environment, the community is serious about recycling and fighting polution, the level of education is very high and the pass rate is excellent, they're inovative and hard working, they're growing from strength to strength with their own funding, vision and productivity. But sure, you at least noted that you felt safe - bravo! Many critics wouldn't even have discussed the fact that there is no crime in Orania.

    I noticed that you mentioned earlier that Orania should take two Nigerian kids and make them Afrikaners... this is the most inconsiderate thing I've ever heared from a liberal-minded person. You would go so far as to talk about denying people their right to live in their own culture just to make Orania look like a racist enclave. Which part of ethnic identity don't you understand... or respect?

    Look, you're a good writer but you made too many critical errors in your article, e.g. Orania's flag, Carel Boshoff IV hasn't been a FF+ MP since November 2009 and Orania is definitely not arid.

    Whether the Orania-caravan moves on or not is entirely up to us. Your readers can underestimate us, gawk at us and mock us as much as they like - at the end of the day they are the ones who have to make a multi-cultural new South Africa work under the ANC while we are building our volkstaat. You have far more serious issues to worry about than some Afrikaners re-establishing their independence in the middle of nowhere... wouldn't you agree :)

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  26. Ethnic identity is not smth you are born with.

    Maybe you will find this link interesting: http://www.spike.com/video/binta-great-idea/2771644
    Not a single culture is completely right, and the good thing is to be open to positive inputs and influences from others.

    By the way, we are all biased, that is the reason why it is so difficult to reach consensus. If at least we will be willing to understand others' points of view, that would be something. we re doomed to have contact with others, luckly!

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  27. Of course you're born with an ethnic identity! I was born an ethnic Afrikaner - I didn't choose my parents, my language, my culture or my heritage. Yet I choose to preserve it. This is the responsibility I have towards my forefathers, myself and my descendants. Some Afrikaners are just not conscious of their own identity or ethnicity or perhaps they just don't give a damn. Other Afrikaners are proud of their ethnic identity, which is why Orania and the volkstaat is priority number one for our survival, freedom and the empowerment of our culture.

    WE DON'T WANT TO INTEGRATE WITH MZANZI - it's as simple as that!

    Quintin Diederichs

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  28. Gareth

    That is a whole lot of anger that you have there Quintin, still upset that those bledi blecks took your country hey?

    I think the preservation of culture as a static thing is counterproductive. We live in a world that is constantly changing, and the next 20 years will herald an exponential continuance of this.

    To blindly cling to a non-sustainable ideology is damaging. When you have children in orania Quintin, will you explain why you are there, and how will you explain this? The only way would be to justify this exclusion based on racial segregation. Blindly influencing young Afrikaners to be disabled in a new and changing world is just wrong.

    Your Afrikaner nation is over, because it refused to change and grow with reality. To perpetuate this in the new South Africa is more than ignorant it is comical.

    LET ME JUST SAY TO ALL THE BLACK READERS OUT THERE, PLEASE KNOW THAT NOT ALL OF US WHITEYS ARE THIS SMALL MINDED AND IDIOTICALLY RACIST.

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  29. Gareth

    And whilst I am on here I want to say that hiding behind reverse discrimination is a dream.

    You are twice as likely to be unemployed in the states as you are as a white South African. In the last 16 years white people as a whole have become more wealthy per capita than before democracy.

    Employment equity is an annoyance for you and me Quinton, but it is a chance for a non-white person to educate their children, something that was deprived from them in the bantu education system. There are black people in positions that they might not usually qualify for, and this will lead to challenges in the short term. But their kids will go to the best schools, and be just as brilliant as any educated Afrikaner (or dont you believe this). This country will bear the yolk of Afrikaner oppression for many years. But instead you arrogantly denounce change.

    The sad thing is I admire many things about the Afrikaner nation, and the empire that they built, from infrastructure to education. Take Mzanzi with a bit of humility, and try not to undermine brilliant Afrikaners who believe in a new future

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